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Ohhhh bullshit....

real miltant networks (ALF, ELF) hate PETA because they know PETA are a buncha wankers.
which is too bad, considering peta was very helpfull back when the whole a.l.f. movement started here in the u.s. unfortunately that's what happens when an organization ditches it's grassroots basis for a more 'respectable' image.
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real miltant networks (ALF, ELF) hate PETA because they know PETA are a buncha wankers.
i certainly don't care what other militant groups think. in relation to myself, i see them as an organization that promotes their message, in part, with terrorist tactics. could it be worse? of course, that's why i said *mild*
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shit for brains.

000ps, was that a "mild terrorist attack"? I hope I don't end up in any government detention camps.

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PETA = people for the eating of tasty animals?
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000ps, was that a "mild terrorist attack"? I hope I don't end up in any government detention camps.
you don't think tossing red paint on somebody is intended to SCARE somebody? that's terrorism, jackass.
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Is leaving a flaming bag of poo on your front doorstep and ringing the doorbell and running away, terrorism?
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Ohhhh bullshit....

real miltant networks (ALF, ELF) hate PETA because they know PETA are a buncha wankers.
Fuckin werd to that- you beat me to the punch.

PETA is sunshine and lollipops compared to a lot of more radical animal rights networks. Earth First! is one of them, although they tend to lean toward the environment more than animals. . . check out their website and you will see what I mean. Earth First! kicks ass.

PETA does good work.

and amphibious- terrorism is a word that shouldn't be thrown around so lightly. Throwing red paint on people is meant to wake them up to their destructive lifestyle. It's not "scary." It is an annoyance, and it is done to treat them like a social outcast. It is supposed to make them feel barbaric. But it is certainly not scary, and definitely does not constitute being called "terrorist" action.
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and amphibious- terrorism is a word that shouldn't be thrown around so lightly. Throwing red paint on people is meant to wake them up to their destructive lifestyle. It's not "scary." It is an annoyance, and it is done to treat them like a social outcast. It is supposed to make them feel barbaric. But it is certainly not scary, and definitely does not constitute being called "terrorist" action.
that is why i used the modifier "mild."

i know dictionaries aren't the best place to find the true definitions of words, but i believe the merriam webster definition is a good description of the word:

the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

where terror is defined as:

2 a : one that inspires fear : SCOURGE b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : WORRY d : an appalling person or thing; especially : BRAT

your description basically fits *exactly* into what terrorism is defined as, specifically 2c.

there are all sorts of terrorism, it isn't limited to blowing stuff up.
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I was watching the news today and I saw PETA's emblem.

Appearantly, some advertisers thought it would be a good idea to use JESUS to promote using cow milk instead of human breast milk as baby food. They made a billboard that said:

"...IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR JESUS"

I'm not sure, but I think PETA is the group that had a problem with the billboard. I don't know. I just thought it was kind of funny and controvertial for them to use JESUS on a advertisement, especially a billboard.

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I don't know where you saw this billboard. no baby should go near cows milk, especially newborns.

Are you sure they weren't commenting on how JESUS was a vegetarian? there is a PETA campaign allong those lines. Who knows if he really was, it is a cool idea though.

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Damn for once I thought I was actually going to see a real britney spears nude.. wait that's impossible cause shes a fucking fake.. though she can entertain pretty damn good..
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SarahGrace: It was SOMETHING along those lines, yes. But it did have to do with babies and food. And come to think of it, babies should not be drinking milk, maybe it was toddlers...? I just don't know. And by the way, I saw this billboard on the news.

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Can we get some url's to some of the more hardcore groups?
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seek and ye shall find, just as with any thing else "good" (as in they yeild more appropriate sites) search terms include:

EarthFirst!
ELF and/or ALF
Rawkus Society (the)
Edward Abbey
Sea Shephards Society
deep ecology
eco-anarchy
ecocentric

<etc.>

Listing them all here would be anarchy in and of itself.... if you really want to check em out, just look.

EarthFirst! has a regular journal (print) as well.

P.S. It's People for Ethical Treatment of Animals
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seek and ye shall find, just as with any thing else "good" (as in they yeild more appropriate sites) search terms include:

EarthFirst!
ELF and/or ALF
Rawkus Society (the)
Edward Abbey
Sea Shephards Society
deep ecology
eco-anarchy
ecocentric

<etc.>

Listing them all here would be anarchy in and of itself.... if you really want to check em out, just look.

EarthFirst! has a regular journal (print) as well.

P.S. It's People for Ethical Treatment of Animals
Hey thanks for answering that before I had to.
Too much typing for me right now. . . .

AT least someone around here knows their sources.

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Their fuckin evil..

fuckin wacko's who support terrorism..


bah..

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Tossing paint on people=terrorism. Quit buying into the buzz word!

Boy, you must have had a rough elementary school experience if you think that's mild terror. wimp.
"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we’re going to be blowing things up and smashing windows.… I think it’s a great way to bring about animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, the atrocities. I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows. ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it."
— Bruce Friedrich, PETA’s vegan campaign coordinator, at the “Animal Rights 2001” conference

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By STEFAN C. FRIEDMAN
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March 7, 2002 -- NEARLY six years after the Earth Liberation Front set off its first firebomb in the United States, the feds may have gotten their first break in figuring out who runs this dangerous eco-terrorist group.
In congressional testimony last month, Richard Berman, of the Center for Consumer Freedom, produced a tax return from the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA). It turns out PETA isn't just funding anti-milk and anti-fur organizations.

It's funding arsonists.

On April 20, 2001, PETA donated $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front to "support their [sic] program activities."

One need look no further than ELF's Web site to see what those activities are: The page features a building engulfed in flames.

According to James Jarboe, domestic-terrorism chief of the FBI's Counterterrorism Division, ELF is "the largest and most active U.S.-based terrorist group" and has already caused more than $43 million in damage since 1996.

The discovery of the donation is crucial not only because it sheds more light on PETA's misguided sympathies, but also because it could lead to the names of individuals connected to ELF - names that have so far eluded authorities.

This is not the first time PETA has been linked with domestic terrorists. PETA served as "spokesgroup" for the Animal Liberation Front, ELF's close counterpart, from 1989 to 1990.

And while scouring PETA's financials, Berman's folks also found that:

* It donated $70,200 to the defense of Rodney Coronado, an ALF member convicted of a fire-bombing at Michigan State University. He pleaded guilty to similar crimes at Oregon and Washington State universities.

* In 1999, PETA gave $2,000 to David Wilson, an ALF activist who once bragged about the movement's expansion into "wildlife actions."

* In 2000, PETA gave $5,000 to the "Josh Harper Support Committee." Harper is an ALF member arrested on numerous occasions.

PETA's cuddly image has also been tarnished by its own staff. Spokesman Bruce Friedrich sounded more like an active ELF member than a crusader for animal rights when he said, "It would be great if all the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories and the banks who fund them exploded tomorrow."

PETA's board of directors later had to censure him.

As for the donation to ELF, PETA President Ingrid Newkirk admits giving the money, but claims it was an honest mistake, that the money was supposed to go toward "public education about destruction of habitat."

Maybe, maybe not.

But in a letter to Newkirk, Rep. Scott McInnis (R.-Colo.) poses seven questions, including why PETA made the donation and if it intends to donate again. And, most important: "Whose signature appeared on the returned check that PETA gave ELF?"

If the feds can get that name, it might be able to bust this ring of eco-terrorists wide open.

Now, PETA claims to be a peaceful animal-rights group opposed to illegal activities. If that's true, Newkirk will answer McInnis' questions.

So far, she's not saying what she'll do. But if she doesn't talk, there may be dire consequences for PETA.

Monday, the Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise, a Bellvue, Wash., -based group that tracks criminal attacks against businesses, sent a complaint to the IRS, asking that PETA's tax-exempt status be stripped because there is "information [that] strongly suggests that PETA induces or encourages the commission of unlawful acts."

Certainly, time is of the essence. As McInnis says, if ELF is not brought to heel, "it's just a matter of time before a human life is taken."
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Here's another case of PETA doing what it does best....nothing.


More Cow Cruelty

A Connellsville, Pa., high school's plan to put a cow out to pasture in order to make money for a prom will go on despite protests from a group of animal rights extremists that the fundraiser is demeaning to the animal, reports the Daily Courier.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals objected to the fundraiser, suggesting that it be "immediately replaced with a more humane and truly entertaining one." A cruelty caseworker with the group said it is opposed to any event that uses animals as a form of entertainment. "Specifically, it's very demeaning to the animal," she said.

In the contest, players pay $10 each for any number of 3,000 squares marked off on the school lawn. A cow is then led onto the lawn to do its business, and the square with the most pies wins $10,000.
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that is why i used the modifier "mild."

i know dictionaries aren't the best place to find the true definitions of words, but i believe the merriam webster definition is a good description of the word:

the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

where terror is defined as:

2 a : one that inspires fear : SCOURGE b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : WORRY d : an appalling person or thing; especially : BRAT

your description basically fits *exactly* into what terrorism is defined as, specifically 2c.

there are all sorts of terrorism, it isn't limited to blowing stuff up.
you'll never get a whole room of people to agree on the definition of that word, much less random board-weirdos.

um...I went to a whole many-hour-long meeting where the whole point was to come up with a definition of "terrorism" and "terrorist." um...didn't work.

the UN, the US, and any other group all have widely varying definitions to serve thier particular political agendas.
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